tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4566162782467918402.post3971676335283660326..comments2024-03-27T23:52:14.065-07:00Comments on Wrestling with Philosophy : Nutrition Rant: Simple vs Complex CarbsAmitabha Palmerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09302663284135239000noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4566162782467918402.post-5523233730738356392010-10-30T16:11:31.199-07:002010-10-30T16:11:31.199-07:00@RD. Now THAT's how the peanut gallery makes a...@RD. Now THAT's how the peanut gallery makes a comment! Nice! I like the challenge. I don't have time this weekend to answer all the points but I will suggest that you reread my entry and look for how I've qualified what I have said. Several of your questions are already answered. Hint: the main qualification is that what I am saying should be viewed in the context of the average person seeking weight loss. The "athlete" example was to demonstrate that other contexts might require other eating habits. You do however ask some questions I did not answer and if you give me a bit of time to do some research, I'd be interested to know the answers myself. Once again, thank you for you input.<br />apaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06833922298250450324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4566162782467918402.post-11935806120190211332010-10-30T11:44:39.382-07:002010-10-30T11:44:39.382-07:00Ami baby,
I want you to ponder some of my questio...Ami baby,<br /><br />I want you to ponder some of my questions re: carbs. Then you should probably re-write this post. You know the saying, "A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing?" It applies here my friend.<br /><br />There are several important physiological factors to consider regarding carbohydrate consumption. Here, you're too quick to make conclusions based on simple mathematical or chemistry-based reasoning. Sometimes there's more to it than a simple 2+2 calculation. <br /><br />1. Where is fructose metabolized in the body and where is it stored?<br /><br />2. Which metabolic processes are fueled by fructose? Is fructose really just another carb? What daily amount is too much fructose? <br /><br />3. Where is glycogen stored in the body and how much can the body hold?<br /><br />4. You very lightly touch on the endocrinological effects of consuming high-glycemic index carbs ("simple carbs") versus low-glycemic index carbs ("complex carbs"). What are the effects on other hormones such as glucagon, growth hormone, and IGF-1 when high-GI carbs are consumed?<br /><br />5. Do high GI and low GI foods contain the same micronutrient profiles? Do micronutrients play a role in things like energy production, fat metabolization, etc.?<br /><br />5. What is the difference between glycemic index and glycemic load? How much carbohydrate volume is required to elicit a measurable insulin response?<br /><br />6. You write, "For athletes it is important to eat simple carbs after a workout so glycogen stores are replenished quickly." Does it matter what type of athletic activity or workout this individual is performing? Do all workouts cause the same level of glycogen depletion? What would happen if someone didn't consume simple carbs after a 45-minute weight-training session (using multiple sets of heavy loads in the 4-8 rep range with 3-min rest intervals)?<br /><br />7. Do you know anything about somatotypes or metabolic-types? It'd be good to touch on something about that here for your captivated audience.<br /><br />Love your blog!<br />xoxo<br />RDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4566162782467918402.post-16731323154582272512010-10-30T10:26:52.093-07:002010-10-30T10:26:52.093-07:00@anne. also your point about the experts flip-flop...@anne. also your point about the experts flip-flopping on what's good or bad for us is well taken with a few caveats. First, as u well know, science is generally self-correcting and the fact that corrections occur is usually an indication of this. as new data comes in and better experiments are conducted, better information is available. also, the claims that are subject to flipflop are usually on the periphery of our knowledge. over time more is learned, consensus is achieved, and the matter is no longer on the periphery. blah blah blah. the bottom line is, if you want health for yourself our your loved ones, you need to pray to sbj, if someone gets sick, it's because you didn't pray enough. it's all your fault!aphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06833922298250450324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4566162782467918402.post-25857585201419045112010-10-30T10:16:09.177-07:002010-10-30T10:16:09.177-07:00great article...and as for the chemistry i should ...great article...and as for the chemistry i should also give credit to my usual cohort: wikipedia!aphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06833922298250450324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4566162782467918402.post-49564826595092909902010-10-30T10:00:23.126-07:002010-10-30T10:00:23.126-07:00Oy. When I posted the above comment, I got the mes...Oy. When I posted the above comment, I got the message that it was too long, so I split the thing in two and reposted, only to find the original had actually appeared. So the two comments shown as "removed by author" were redundant. In case anyone's wondering.Anne Mullinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13276844519491920043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4566162782467918402.post-53003149841991102732010-10-30T09:55:55.355-07:002010-10-30T09:55:55.355-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anne Mullinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13276844519491920043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4566162782467918402.post-62254567870073068602010-10-30T09:55:00.483-07:002010-10-30T09:55:00.483-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anne Mullinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13276844519491920043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4566162782467918402.post-44305803354483302010-10-30T09:53:10.176-07:002010-10-30T09:53:10.176-07:00I was listening to NPR Science Friday podcast 10/0...I was listening to NPR Science Friday podcast 10/07/09 (I'm a little behind), in which David Kessler, former FDA commissioner, makes some interesting claims about the effects of sugar, fat and salt on our brain chemistry. Here's a link to an article, in case you don't have the podcast on file: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/26/AR2009042602711.html. He's all over the web, regardless. It's another piece to add to the weight-control puzzle, and I find it quite intriguing.<br /><br />In addition, a study hit the media this week that claims that even one sugary drink a day results in a 15% increase in the chance an individual will develop type 2 diabetes.<br /><br />I put this stuff here to distract you from your work, of course. No other reason.<br /><br />Your explanation of the difference between simple and complex carbs is the simplest and best I have ever read, so thank you for that. (Or should I thank Chana?)<br /><br />Beyond all the stuff we know about human nutrition, I believe (I do!) there is a whole lot of stuff we don't know. Hey, when I was growing up, margarine was "prescribed" for people with high blood serum cholesterol; now we know that transfats are disastrous in their effects. There are many more examples of reversals of opinion on nutritional factors. Vitamin E is good...oops, not so good...etc. Low fat is good...oops, not so good. Low carbs is good...oops, not so good...oops, good again. <br /><br />It may be fallacious logic, but I still think that eating closely to the diet we were evolved to eat is probably the safest and healthiest way to go. Simple carbs were rare in our ancestor's diet. <br /><br />Anyhow, I think I'm off topic. I hope you are sufficiently distracted now, to go off on another rant.<br /><br /><br />Your faithful peanut.Anne Mullinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13276844519491920043noreply@blogger.com